Word List to Describe Ryan McGinley's Photographs
Strange
Natural
Calming
Erotic
Provocative
Sensual
Naked
Raw - frank and realistic in the depiction of unpleasant facts or situations. strong and undisguised.
Colorful
Demanding
Nostalgic
Magical - beautiful or delightful in such a way as to seem removed from everyday life.
Fantastic
Mysterious
Subtle
Innocent
Personal - of or concerning one's private life, relationships, and emotions rather than matters connected with one's public or professional career.
Comfortable
Open
Beautiful
Saddening
Embarrassing
Meaningful
Striking - attracting attention by reason of being unusual, extreme, or prominent.
Elegant
Harmonious
Tense
Tender
Private
Impromptu
Staged
Nude
Connected
Familiar
Momentous
Realistic
Cultural
Progressive
Ridiculous
Loving
Carefree
Candid - truthful and straightforward; frank. (of a photograph of a person) taken informally, esp. without the subject's knowledge.
Unfolding
Documentary
Experimental
Exciting
Shocking
Crude
Spontaneous
Emotional - arousing or characterized by intense feeling.
Telling
Alive
Emotionally Raw
Strikingly Candid
Magically Emotional
Striking and Raw
Candid Personality
Rawly Emotional
Ryan McGinley in Conversation with Gerald Matt and Synne Genzmer, September, 2007, Kunsthalle Wien, Verlag der Buchhandlung Walther König, Köln
In your photography you take up Nan Goldin’s idea of a visual diary, making portraits of your friends and your own generation. How do you feel about being seen as a successor to her? Or do you rather try to distinguish yourself from her?
Ryan McGinley: When I started making photos in the late nineties I was very influenced by Nan. I remember looking at her book The Ballad of Sexual Dependency in 1997 and thinking, who are these people? Where are those places and where can I sign up? The world she created through her photographs mesmerized me and inspired me to make photographs of my own friends. After I was photographing intensely for about a year or so, I realized that I was actually creating my own world.
I was a fly on the wall shooting what was going on in my life, which was spontaneous and exciting. We were all on drugs, having sex, writing graffiti, hanging out at parties and having a great time. It was all so fun and I was having fun documenting it. I would never not have my camera and I was never not working. All of my subjects were willing collaborators and they were excited about being photographed. They were all artists in their own right and understood what I was trying to do. I wasn’t trying to imitate Nan. When you live in downtown Manhattan each generation of kids that are involved in that culture seem to be all doing the same thing. After about two years I couldn’t wait for things to happen any longer. I took a new direction in my work and started setting up situations to be photographed. They still were in the same vein as my older work – 35mm, grainy, spontaneous shots. The only difference was that they were more thought out. I would choose locations and people and had more of an idea for what I wanted to accomplish with the photographs I was making. It was a departure from documentary photography, and I guess that’s when I started to distinguish myself from photographers like Nan Goldin. I suppose I started to develop my own style and find my own voice.
Over
a period of three years you photographed close to 100 Morrissey concerts. Your
images are mainly of groups of people, the audience and individuals involved in
the event. The image of the mass and of the individual results in a mood
portrait of the musical event, recording ecstatic moments, feelings of
belonging and collective emotions. What is interesting for the photographic eye
in such relationships of tension?
RM: I started shooting the Morrissey concerts
because I’ve been a fan of his music from a very young age. His lyrics spoke to
me; they were so close to the things happening in my life. When I started
taking pictures I would go to the shows and sneak rolls of film in my socks and
hide my camera in my underwear. I’d be in the crowd shooting Morrissey and my
friends that I attended the concert with. When I started getting the photos
back over time I decided it had to become a project. The concerts tied into
what I was trying to accomplish in my nude work. People losing themselves in
the moment, acting out, bathed in light. It was about a subculture that I felt
an affinity with. I put a book together of the photos I had made so far and
brought it over to Morrisey’s record label. Strangely enough, Morrissey’s
manager was also the manager of Elton John who, from the beginning, had always
been a collector of my work. I got granted permission from his manager and the
man himself to shoot wherever I wanted throughout the concert. Shooting the
shows required a different approach than my other work: I had limited time to
make the photographs and was shooting people that I didn’t know. I would always
start out between the barricade and the stage for the first three songs and
make photos of fans that go to every show and follow him around the world. The
beyond-dedicated fans. The fans that wait 24 hours in the freezing cold to secure
their spot up front. When I’m shooting, I’m looking for the person that is
really getting off. The fan that is either in hysterics, screaming the lyrics
at the top of their lungs, or hypnotized by Morrissey on stage.
I’m always trying to preoccupy people and
distract them so they are unaware of the camera. The concerts were perfect for
that reason. The loud music is disorienting. Everyone is fixated on Morrissey.
I had the freedom to investigate people without them being aware of my
presence. After shooting up front, I would either shoot the sea of people from
above or navigate my way back into the heart of the audience where the most
action was happening. Fans jumping around, being pushed and pulled, drinks
flying in the air. This was the spot that was by far my favourite place to make
photographs. It was always so difficult shooting under these circumstances but
that’s what was so appealing to me. Reloading my camera in the most difficult
situation possible was a challenge. I had to be like a hunter in the crowd to
seek out fans who were losing their heads in the moment. The ones transfixed
and the ones in action. The stage lighting played a part in that series. After
attending so many shows I knew how the songs would dictate the light and when
the bright lights would bathe the fans in every color of the rainbow. In the
early stages of the project I would be constantly dropping my camera jumping
around in the audience. The back would pop open often and the film would get
exposed. I was very interested in the result of this and decided to start
experimenting with my film before the concerts. I would expose to all different
kinds of lights. Sunrises, sunsets, TV’s, house lighting, colored bulbs, etc. I
began a journal about what would happen to the film after each exposure. I
would then re-shoot the exposed roll at the concerts and mixed with the stage
lighting it would give me a new and exciting color palette. That’s why the
colors are so rich and saturated or very muted and pastel. I shot close to 100
concerts all over the world. The greatest part of any project was that I got to
listen to Morrissey, my hero, when I was taking the pictures.
Your photographs sometimes show the subject either forgetting
themselves in a particular moment or looking self-consciously into the camera.
To be photographed has become so much a part of everyday life that it is either
not noticed or is taken for granted, an oscillation between self-forgetfulness
and self-presentation. Do you look for these particular moments? Do you also
stage them?
RM: I don’t stage my photographs but at the same time they are not
documentaries. I make these moments happen by putting certain people in certain
situations. My subjects are usually friends or someone that I might have met at
a club or walking down the street. I seek out interesting people that I know
will perform for my camera, people with dynamic personalities, in much the same
way that a director finds an actor they like to work with. I like to think of
my photographs as happenings. Like the happenings of the 1960′s and 1970′s. I
find a beautiful location that functions as a backdrop. I use inspirational
photographs to figure out what direction I want the shoot to go in. They range
anywhere from amateur photos from the internet, screen-grabs from movies and TV
shows to naturist documentaries, photographs from vintage pornography, nudist
publications, camera periodicals, and artists I’m inspired by. We start off by
looking at a lot of imagery and ideas and then narrow them down to a few that feel
right and work that day. Then I let them run free and direct them with a very
loose hand. If I want something to happen I’ll make it happen or if something I
didn’t expect happens and I liek it I’ll go with it. It’s usually a waiting
game. You can only direct someone so much before their personality takes over
and they offer me something I never would have expected. I shoot a lot of
photos and when editing find that one image that is perfect from that one
shoot. If I make a successful image it will get across my idea, the gestures of
the subject will be casual, the light will be perfect, the composition will
work, and the feeling will be real. I like to be surprised when I get back my
film. That’s the exciting part of making photographs; you never have full
control and you never know what might happen. Each roll of film is like a
little gift under the Christmas tree.
You had your artistic breakthrough with
pictures of urban youth culture, documentary images of a sub-culture, the world
of the skateboard, graffiti and music. A few years ago you shifted your
settings to the natural world outside New York. Has the treasury of urban
motifs exhausted itself?
RM:
When I first move to New York I never wanted to leave. I think I might have
left the city once over a period of seven years. All I wanted to do was stay
out late and roam the streets of New York. Ride my bike around and end up
anywhere. Being a young teenager coming into the city from the suburbs also had
a big impact. Skateboarding around the city was inspiring. I was exposed to all
different kinds of worlds. Being uptown observing the businessmen and cruising
downtown to the vagrants underneath the Brooklyn Bridge. Hanging out with kids
of all races and economic backgrounds. Utilizing the urban landscape to have
fun and do tricks. I guess the way I got into making photographs was making
skateboard videos in high school. I realized I was more interested in the
in-between moments that happened and people’s characters on the videos rather
than the skating itself. Looking back, I see that making those skateboard
videos is very similar to the way I work now. Back then it was all about the
trick and doing it over and over again until you landed it. In my photo-shoots
nowadays I might have someone do the same action numerous times. Running back
and forth, jumping around, falling until the person can’t do it anymore. I like
to push my subjects as far as they can go. I often find the best results happen
when someone is so physically drained they are in a state of exhaustive bliss.
I loved photography graffiti writers because I identified with their insanity.
These crazy kids that wrote their name tens of thousands of times all over the
city. Hanging off rooftops 15 stories up to make their art. I felt the same
making photos all day and night everyday and night. I was so fascinated by that
lifestyle. I was always up for an adventure and never afraid to get in trouble.
All of these subcultures tie into one another. Skating, graffiti, music; there
are so many crossovers. Music has always been a large part of my life, defining
the way I dressed, my attitude, my beliefs. All of these elements play a large
roll in my photographs.
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